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Are unhealthy sexual attitudes to blame for the Priest sex abuse scandals?

admin — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 20:21:26 +0000

The media/public etc seems to believe/suggest that all those Priests that commited clergy abuse are ‘Predators’ that with evil intent choose those positions so they can get close to and prey on children or that celibracy causes it.
The Church maybe? seems to pass the buck onto Homosexuals and say that the issue is caused by Homosexuality/that theres Homosexual-Child abuse connection.However psychological studies are conflicting regarding this and at this stage with such small studies there is no way to say for certainty either way.Suggestion have been made of people twisting studies and also the highly subjective nature of the studies-eg:a Psych pro-gay can make statistics seem like Gay-pedo isnt connected.Likewise a Psych anti-gay could do the oppiosite with the statistics.
I dont know if the Church is trying to avoid whats happened or alternatively whether they simply have no biases but simply believe that there is a strong gay-pedo connection through ‘innocent’ means.
Ie:do they have a preconcieved bias towards gays due to the bible verses arround gays or are they innocently just believing that that is the reason for the abuses because someone eg:a psychologist suggested so and the church just believed their word and is ‘in the dark’ about these matters.
The media suggesting all these men are predators/predatory evil nature,im not fully convinced by either.Im neither aware of a strong connection between celibacy and sexabuse.
That said,i dont think that priests should be celibrate unless given the gift of celibacy from God but i think they should be allowed and encouraged to marry.I dont think this is fully what is causing the clergy abuse but i think nothing should be compulsory-ie;the celibacy inclined preist should be frre to be celibrate and the marriage inclined preist should be free to get married.

I wonder strongly though,whether much of the sexabuses are caused by unhealthy sexual attitudes?
Whether this is the real primary cause in many cases.
Many in the Church have been taught unhealthy attitudes towards sex,its been passed down from generations/church and it seems many preist have this.Eg:that sexual boldily feelings are bad/dirty/shameful/filthy/to be suppression etc.
This cycle of suppression-shame-longing could very well cause the sort of abuses that have happened.
Priests end up with distorted sexual bodily feelings that they struggle to suppress then they long for the connection then they fight these urges,feel selfhatred and shame and eventually end up not able to find these sensatiosn and molest someone.
Some of the priests have been molested too as children.
I wonder whether theres a whole culture of people-in plain words-beign sexual screwed up-the religious and the non religious.
Coudl these tragedies all be avoided by Church openly teaching clergy about sex=shame is wrong and teach things like the below book and Theology of the Body by John paul 2 and helping them heal their distorted sexual feelings which could literally have changed their chemistry?
Ie:healthy sex is niether about ‘dirty/shame/guilt’ nor is it about ‘im horny/need a root/im tapping that’ but it is instead beautiful,healthy and Holy.
What are your opinion please?
Thankyou

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=mEQbnc92z-gC&pg=PA205&lpg=PA205&dq=unhealthy+sexual+attitudes+catholic&source=bl&ots=t5FYivQBDe&sig=fxvRnGJ4WhAAqQ2EUxEyVANG2AA&hl=en&ei=WcokTNX0Ko-TkAXb8s1q&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CEQQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.atma-o-jibon.org/english/wilkie_au_7.htm
Thanks Ratz-yes its like everyone seems to forget that.
Marysia-why are you full of anger?
If you had of read the question properly instead of exploding off emotion and anger you would have seen that i was not suggesting that celibacy is the cause.
I am raising questions whether unhealthy sexual beliefs/raising eg:being taught sex=dirt/shame/suppression etc and the struggle with that was the main contributing cause.
I know many priests have unhealthy perception towards sex(not through their own fault) cause from what some have told me.
Its not new to us that many in the Church or society in general have been taught confusing things about sex-i dont see why it angered you so much-by discussing Gods plan for sex maybe we could be helping to avoid things in the future.
This is a seperate issue from celibacy althogether.

do you have CLUE what you are talking about…..
MARRIED MEN are the most common pedophiles — 79.9% are MARRIED – they could have a healthy sex life if that was their choice

Every man who becomes a priest KNOWS HE IS THE REMAIN CELIBATE…. they are not FORCED to be a priest! they could marry and be a deacon OR change denominations!

98% of priests who are celibate have NO PROBLEM AS THEY ARE NOT PEDOPHILES

THE PROBLEM IS THERE ARE PEOPLE (PRIMARILY MEN) WHO ARE PEDOPHILES….. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTHY SEX!!!!!!!!!!

whenever i see the word catholic, or the word priest, i automatically think of pedophilia and child abuse….?

admin — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:51:04 +0000

does that happen to anyone else here? when i say automatically, i really mean just that. i have no control over it, its just like a synonym to me. does that happen to anyone else here? why do you think it is? obviously there is a correlation between the catholic church and child abuse, but when someone says the word ‘jew’ i dont automatically think of circumcision, or about the burqa when someone says islam.

Because it shows how much you hate the church and the people

Catholics=have you quit going to Mass/Church becasue of the priest sex abuse scandals?

admin — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:24:35 +0000

I’ll stop going to Mass/Church when sex abuse is considered acceptable in Catholicism.

It is not.

Why should priests not abuse children, when it is simple to have another priest forgive them on behalf of God?

admin — Tue, 11 May 2010 07:33:39 +0000

That’s the problem with the whole religion….in a nutshell. Their "god" will forgiven anything…..so they go ahead and do whatever they please.

Most are only "sorry" about what they do when they get caught….otherwise there would not be hundreds of boys molested by the same priest!! Repentance is joke.

Wouldn’t the Catholic Priest Abuse Be Negative Towards Gays?

admin — Thu, 06 May 2010 22:01:24 +0000

Every time something happens with a priest sexually abusing some young boy it always goes back to "Christians and the church are just a bunch of crazy weird people who don’t follow what they believe."

I would say that it speaks equally towards the gay community too. These priests are homosexual and instead of leaving the church(which some do) they pursue relations with boys and make the church look bad when it has nothing to do with the church being contradictory no more so than a gay man doing a horrible thing

Tommy, I’m hoping you’re just naive, ’cause the alternative is scarey…

Male Child Abusers who have a preference for boys/young men are, by overwhelming majority, primarily heterosexual. This is an expression of Power, not Sexuality.

I’m not denying that there are a small percentage of homosexual men that prefer minors, but that is no more surprising than the fact that there is a small percentage of heterosexual men that prefer minors, and women that do the same (het and not). Where this not the case, the child porn industry would fold-up and blow away never to be seen again.

Of the infinitesimal minority of Catholic Priests that *are* in deed homosexual, their "unapproved excursions" are by an large with other Priests and Laity that are of age. So, for every actual homosexual Catholic Priest that abuses boys, you likely have 20-30 or more heterosexual Catholic Priests doing it.

Good Luck!

Why should priests not abuse children, when it is simple to have another priest forgive them on behalf of God?

admin — Mon, 03 May 2010 16:55:34 +0000

That’s why all organized religion is a joke and should be shunned.

Is insufficient attention to female victims in Catholic priest sex abuse scandals?

admin — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:34:26 +0000

The coverage until recently has focused exclusively on boys and while that has had the salutary effect of raising awareness of male victims of sexual abuse, it appears that 1 in 4 victims has been female and the female victims have tended to be younger. Many, myself included, have perceived this as primarily or even exclusively an issue where boys are victimized.

Obviously, that perception is caused by the coverage but what factors do you think have shaped that coverage?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/236489

(I have other concerns about the article but I’ll save those for another time.)

juditha…. you are joking right?! what matters is KIDS – male and female have been abused. that’s like pulling out the "who" in the holocust were killed (Jews versus Christians)…. my goodness the majority were male, no one thinks there were no females.
what has shaped the coverage is the media attack on the Rcc and the media share will bring them MORE points if it’s male on male for some twisted reason. we have turned into a very sick minded society who enjoy seeing the worst of people instead of working to focus on helping people.

if the media cared a smidge about kids they would be covering not only the Rcc but the protestant denominations and schools that are abusing children and yes not doing a darned thing about it too in some cases.
http://www.reformation.com/
http://www.cpiu.us/statistics-2/

this is scary and people need to wake up to the fact kids are being abused – moreso within their own home as 60% of children are abused by their own parent!

Priest abuse question…?

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 04:56:17 +0000

….Why do Catholic priest questions always get removed?

They don’t even have to be blatantly provocative questions or statements put up by trolls purely for the sake of aggravating people.

Questions that even so much as REFER to priests get removed.

Do Catholics own Yahoo!Answers or something?

Yelp they do kind of stick together
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To bad the rest of the religions on the planet can’t do the same
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Oh there are a few that do but some have a bad results when they do
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Why are there fewer reported Catholic Priest pedophile sex abuse cases in come countries than others?

admin — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:29:23 +0000

Spain, France, Italy, Portugal, and Poland has fewer reported cases compared to America, Germany, Austria, and Ireland.

Are there fewer lawyers in Spain, France, Italy, Portugal and Poland or more Catholics?

cause they don’t do it there?

Why do news about the vatican priest and sexual abuse always involve young boys?

admin — Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:12:33 +0000

I mean, why is it about pedophile and child molesting priest, bishop, etc. I never heard of sex scandal with a legal aged girl, but always about a underage boy. Does it have to do something with the bible or ways of the religion?

They are just better at keeping the girl scandals secret. Priests can’t marry so heterosexual sex is out. Church rule, not in the bible, probably to avoid rules of inheritance(greed & power struggle). What is the common element in all priests that are caught, excluding being a priest? There ya go, Skippy. ………….>_<